Taverns go smoke-free July 5

Workplace ban has many building outdoor venues

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BY MATTHEW OLSON

molson@kenoshanews.com


July 5 will bring the end of smoking in Wisconsin workplaces.

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The days leading up to that change have local taverns considering their options and preparing for the effects of the new standards.

Legislation passed last year by the state will effectively ban smoking in all indoor workplaces in Wisconsin, including bars, restaurants and private clubs. Individuals violating those standards will face fines of $100 to $250, and the business can face $100 a day in fines for each day in violation.

Kenosha is no stranger to smoking regulations.

In 2000, the city passed an ordinance that prohibited smoking in all bars and restaurants unless there was a full-service bar, a separate smoking room or more than 50 percent of the establishment’s sales came from alcohol. In 2008, a proposal to ban smoking in all workplaces was taken to a citywide referendum, which was opposed by 52 percent of city voters leading to the proposal being dropped.

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But the statewide change means all city bars and restaurants will have to comply with the no-smoking regulations.

“There are bars that will close up that will never open again,” said Larry Kavalauskas, president of the Kenosha Tavern League and owner of Spanky’s Bar and Grill at 2325 52nd St. “I don’t know what taverns are going to do. I don’t know what I’ll do. You’re going to lose customers. It’s scary.”

Outdoor areas booming

Smoking will still be permitted on bar and restaurant patios, which more and more local establishments are working toward.

There are 42 businesses in the city with an outdoor extension, an outdoor area considered to be a part of the business, where smoking is permitted and patrons can bring an alcoholic drink with them while still being considered in the establishment.

Nine businesses have received that extension since April and four more applications are on file with the city.

“We relaxed some of our restrictions so more businesses qualify for the extension and more people are taking advantage of it than before,” said Matthew Knight, Kenosha’s deputy city attorney. “There are certainly more businesses coming in for an extension now.”

Expanding the opportunity for these extensions was legislation, sponsored by Alderman Jesse Downing, which changed the regulations for outdoor extensions. The new regulations, passed in April, allow businesses to have an extension built within 25 feet of a residential building. The previous distance requirement was 100 feet.

The city also raised fees for the outdoor extension by increasing the initial review fee from $50 to $150, the annual outdoor dining fee from $50 to $150 and the processing fee from $50 to $150.

Ready by July 5?

John Pasquali, owner of Pasquali’s Bar at 3216 60th St., obtained an outdoor extension for his business in April. The patio at Pasquali’s still is being constructed and Pasquali hopes the space will be in place by July 5. Pasquali said the outdoor extension seemed like the best way to retain those customers who smoke.

“You don’t want a lot of people just standing outside of your bar,” Pasquali said. “There’s always a habit to take your drink outside, and I don’t want people to get into trouble.”

Pasquali said the outdoor extensions also could be attractive for non-smoking customers. “The summers here are just fantastic, and you want to cater to smokers and non-smokers,” he said.

Kavalauskas said the outdoor extensions will not be put to much use in the winter though, and the cost of creating those structures can be prohibitive for many establishments. Kavalauskas said time will tell what the final effects will be.

“I don’t know what the answer is,” Kavalauskas said. “I think we’re going to lose 15 to 20 percent of customers. The economy is not good and taverns are doing poorly. This will be the final nail for quite a few taverns in the state.”

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1 | Kenosha News
Taverns go smoke-free July 5
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2 | The Voice of Reason
Based on WHAT, Larry???
Lose 15-20% of your business, Larry? Upon what do you base your estimate? Certainly not on previous data that shows that when bars go smokefree, their business increases because there are 4 times as many non-smokers as smokers. YOUR business may decline 15-20% because of the way you run your business, but not because you must now be smokefree. All you "Chicken Littles" who have been crying about the sky falling are the ones who will profit from the law. The vast majority do not want to go home from a night of fun smelling like an ashtray.
3 | son-of-a-gun
Amen
Maybe in lieu of smoking these bars can serve cheese to go with the whine. Don't you ever get tired of the old "the bars will suffer and close down" song? We do. There is NO way you will EVER convince any logical thinking person that people will now just stay home and drink, and give up darts, and pool, and volleyball, and bowling all because they can't smoke. It's not like they can cross state lines, because our bordering states are already smoke free. That said, continue living in your dilusional world, and we'll live our smoke free one!
4 | CTD-Bigtime
Mixed feelings on this issue
I can't say I feel happy or sad about this. I never liked bars to begin with. The smoke, the people, the smell, never could enjoy sitting around getting drunk. Now that smoking has been outlawed, I still don't see myself setting foot in those places. I will say however that I don't agree with government legislating behavior. They're saying that we're too dumb to know that smoking is bad for us. So they have to outlaw it as if we're retarded children. Noone is forcing anyone to go to or work in someplace that has health risks attached to it.
5 | RaciallyConditioned
The Voice of Reason said:
Lose 15-20% of your business, Larry? Upon what do you base your estimate? Certainly not on previous data that shows that when bars go smokefree, their business increases because there are 4 times as many non-smokers as smokers. YOUR business may decline 15-20% because of the way you run your business, but not because you must now be smokefree. All you "Chicken Littles" who have been crying about the sky falling are the ones who will profit from the law. The vast majority do not want to go home from a night of fun smelling like an ashtray.
You should
wait until your theory that ALL these taverns will have more profits actually is proven to be true. THEN come out and blow your horn in triumph because you had foreseen the future and was right, And sing it loud ♫ ...or apologize for being so niave. Sick of you whining on this issue. I smoke and hate smokey bars, but rather be in one if it guaranteed you would not be there. If there were actually more non-smokers than smokers wanting to go to taverns, then the Law of Supply and Demand would say..."if you build it, they will come". From what I understand, Kenosha has like 3 non-smoking bars? Haven't seen them on Kenosha's Fortune 20. (to be fair, I think two of em' are heading to Mexico=)

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